Interview: Wilma Vritra Discuss Taking Flight For Debut Album Burd

Pyramid Vritra and Wilma Archer produced one of 2019’s standout albums in Burd, a soul-bearing slice of London x Los Angeles beats and lyricism that reveals more on every listen.

The duo, together known as Wilma Vritra, have just released a video for the short and snappy Ketchup, which clocks in at just under a minute. You can check it below our interview with the transatlantic couple.

Wilma Vritra live. Image: Fernando Adame.

How did you come across each other and come to work together?
Wilma: I saw Hal’s Tea and Lemonade video and reached out.

Vritra: The internet. We started working through email. What became Shallow Grave was the first song we did. That introduced me to his music.

What lessons from your respective pasts have you brought to the project?
Vritra: All we can express is what our pasts have shown us. So no matter what, your past is incorporated in what you do now. This album lyrically addressed a lot of relationships. Love, personal, impersonal, all that.

Wilma: Always take the leap.


Did you find you had things in common / not in common which helped you complete the album?
Vritra: Wilma coming to LA was really pivotal to all of this. Us meeting helped us understand each other a bit more. Definitely a good bit of things in common. I think we work well together. I don’t have to do much thinking. Most times it just works.

Wilma: Other than initial geographical / time zone differences – there wasn’t any reason for either of us to compromise what each of us brought to the music – but if there had been, or will be, we’re definitely compatible enough for that not to become a problem. Neither of us had people telling / prodding us to complete this music, and neither of us are relying on the outcome. We only did this because we wanted to.

Was it weird meeting each other after only emailing? Was it easy to get into the groove to complete the album?
Wilma: Not in the slightest. After we met things became fluid, and was less shooting in the dark over what I was sending Hal, seeing his response in real time led me to dig out ideas I wouldn’t have shared without getting to know him. As a result, the new music is flowing much faster.


There’s more already and I feel now it could now continue indefinitely… – Wilma Archer


Vritra: Not at all. I think it helped that we were both dealing with situations of our own. Although it wasn’t intended it may have been what we both needed to progress at the time.

Music has obviously been vital in getting you through dark times. How do you feel about sharing that with the world? Is there a hope that it could help others, or is it not about that?
Vritra: It’s all just words and emotion. All music’s purpose is to capture emotion. I don’t have a problem displaying anything because it’s an escape and a translation of that emotion.

Wilma: Whose dark times? I don’t think the musicality provides any cues to emotion, and I’d hate to pretend the music owns any kind of healing properties.

What do you hope people get out of the album?
Wilma: Distraction and entertainment.

Vritra: Just to enjoy it.

How did you come to work with Bad Taste?
Vritra: From my end it just happened. Wilma was out in London I think him and Abdullah (who runs Bad Taste) met. Very cool guy. Very good place to be.

Wilma: I met Abdullah through a mutual friend and straight away knew he would help us present this in the right light.

Will there be more from Wilma Vritra, or are you working on solo projects now?
Vritra: Both. We’re like four or five songs into the next album. Wilma’s working on a solo album. I’m working on a solo album.

Wilma: Both me and Hal are doing our solo things. But there’s more already and I feel now it could now continue indefinitely.

Burd is out now on Bad Taste. Buy and stream here.

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